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Grief and Hope (NC-17) Print

Written by Minx

21 April 2013 | 40330 words | Work in Progress

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Chapter 8

They left early, as soon as the sun was up, as Elessar had desired. Ardahil and his men had taken little time to ready their things. Faramir too had hurriedly pulled on his still damp clothes. The ride back was a long and quiet one. The rain had stopped but the sky remained somewhat overcast and gloomy.

Faramir was sore all over. His shoulders and back hurt from the exertion and much to his mortification, his lower body too ached greatly. He shifted himself every now and then, trying to keep his mind off the soreness he felt between his buttocks. He tried too to not think of all that had transpired the night before. Just the thought of the king touching him so intimately caused a heat in his lower belly that he barely managed to control.

He decided to concentrate on the trail instead. It had been a while since his last trip to Ithilien. He had hardly come here after the war, and despite the overcast sky, he felt a little lighter here among the dense woods and rolling meadows where he had spent much of his adult life.

Elessar rode alongside Ardahil through most of the journey, and Faramir was left to ride alone. The overnight rain had left the trails slushy and wet and often in places they were forced to slow down. They stopped for a hurried meal later in the morning and then again in the afternoon. Ardahil hurried them along, unwilling to allow anyone to tarry longer than necessary. Faramir could sense the scowl the older man was bestowing on him, when he rose a little sluggishly after the noon meal.

There was little he could do though; the soreness he felt had only worsened after riding all morning and the thought of another long stretch on horseback had him nearly groaning. Ardahil continued to lead the way, getting increasingly irritated as the soggy trails hampered their progress.
He cut short their halts, ensuring just enough time for the horses to rest.

As the evening neared, Faramir tried to suggest a new trail to him that he knew would be shorter. Ardahil however ignored him. Hurting still, Faramir did not press the point further. When they were still some distance away from the city, late in the evening, he finally pulled up alongside the captain.

“There is a small meadow a little away, by a stream, where we could stop to eat,” he said. He was feeling quite hungry, and the longer halt would give him sometime to recover.

“No more halts,” Ardahil growled, “I would instead desire we go faster. We are nearly at the end of the woods, are we not?”

“But we’ve been ridden without a stop since-”

“Lord Faramir, it is getting dark, and some of my men have wives to return to!” Ardahil gritted out.

“I know a shorter route,” Faramir tried.

“I will not risk taking the king on an unknown trail.”

“It is not an unknown-”

“It is best my lord, that you leave these matters to us. Nothing for you to worry yourself over. Once we are back in Minas Tirith, you may have all the rest you desire.”

Faramir flushed. “I have been a ranger too. I am just as aware of-”

“Lord Faramir, is aught the matter?” the king’s voice was low, but cold.

Faramir stiffened at the distant tone, so different from the husky softness of the previous night, but replied nevertheless. “Sire, no. I – I – merely- suggested changing our route-”

Ardahil cut in sharply. “I was just telling Lord Faramir that if we wish to return to Minas Tirith tonight, we should perhaps stick to a familiar route.”

“I would agree with Ardahil,” Elessar said, frowning up at the sky, “The men are familiar with this route and would ride swifter along this than a new one, short as it may be. Let us move on now!” He spurred his horse ahead as he spoke. Faramir stared after his retreating back, as Ardahil too nudged his horse forward.

He moved quietly back to his position at the rear.

It was late when they finally reached Minas Tirith, tired, hungry and damp from the drizzle that had started as soon as they had crossed the Anduin.
Wet mud and dense undergrowth had hampered their progress, as the sun began to set. The escort rode along with them till the guardhouse. Faramir, Elessar and Ardahil rode on to the citadel stables.

Upon reaching here, the king slid off his horse and handed the reins to a stable boy and stretched himself. Faramir watched the graceful movement of the muscles with fascination. Even after hours on the saddle, the king’s movements were spry and elegant as ever.

“Ahhh… a hot bath, and then bed,” Ardahil groaned, as he too dismounted, “I fear, milord, I grow old!”

“Indeed,” the king said smiling, “It has been a long day! Do get some rest.
I too am grateful I have no councils tomorrow.”

Faramir slid tiredly off his horse as the other two men conversed. He landed noisily, his movements awkward as cramped muscles protested. The two men turned towards him in surprise, as he clung to his saddle for the support his shaky legs were unable to provide, and he cursed himself again for his inadequacies.

Ardahil threw a scornful glance at him, one that Faramir had become increasingly used to that day, before bowing to the king, “I shall bring the reports to you tomorrow then, sire.”

Elessar turned towards Faramir.

Faramir glanced up at the king, still leaning heavily against the horse for support, breathing unevenly.

“Thank you for your help,” Elessar said, and turning, walked away.

The sharp striking of his boots against the cobbled stones rung through the quiet of the night. Faramir stared after him blankly. After a while, he realised he was still leaning against the horse. The patient animal had finally started whickering. He let go of the stirrups he had clasped and shook his head. Surely he had not expected the king to stay back. They had talked of this after all.

He sighed tiredly and heaved himself away. He led the horse into its stall.
He removed his saddlebags, finding them suddenly heavier and then spent some time settling in the horse, his movements sluggish and tired. When he finally returned to the Steward’s apartments, he found the household had turned in for the night. A sleepy guard let him in.

He made his way over to the kitchens hoping to catch the staff there before they went to sleep, but found it empty. He took an apple from a fruit basket instead, and hoped that would suffice. He chewed it slowly on the way back to his room.

Back in his chambers, he sighed heavily as he removed his boots and sank onto his bed, still in his damp riding clothes. A hot bath would be nice, he thought, recollecting Ardahil’s words. For the briefest of moments, he thought of a hot bath and the king. Well, he wouldn’t get either, right now.
If he were to wake the servants for what his father would surely term a luxury, his father would surely get to hear of it. He didn’t think he could afford to give him further cause for disapproval.

Although considering he’d stayed away for all of two days, surely Denethor would be happier, he thought drily.

He lay down tiredly, thinking back to the two days, wondering at all that happened. He thought back to the previous night. Had it actually happened, he wondered, that he had been with the king. Of course it had, he told himself. And yet today, it had been almost as if nothing had happened between them. He felt himself helplessly thinking back to the harshness in the king’s voice earlier, and the stony farewell at the stables. But that was what he would have to expect, he thought desperately. The king was married.

And even if he wasn’t, he had loved Boromir.

He fell asleep picturing the king’s handsome naked frame next to his, trying to remember the feel of the man inside him.

Faramir woke early the next morning, sore from his various hurts and cold in his damp riding garb. Groaning, he rose and went in search of a servant to call for hot water.

Aragorn awoke with the sun, as was his wont. Next to him Arwen lay sleeping, the ivory of her flawless skin almost melding into the satin whiteness of the sheets. He moved closer to her, gently wrapping his arms around her softness, reaching for her. She sighed pleasurably as his hands ran along her naked frame but stayed sleeping.

Aragorn rose and wrapping his robe around him, walked into the open terrace outside his room. A few weak rays of sunshine filtered valiantly through the overcast sky. Aragorn leaned against the parapet and stared down into the city. He found himself thinking of Faramir. If they hadn’t arrived so late last night, he would have invited him to his study for a glass of wine. The younger man had looked exhausted. Perhaps it was for the better. Aragorn was not sure what they would have spoken about.

It was relieving though, that Faramir too preferred to treat any relationship they may have in the same manner as he sought to. They would meet on occasion. That would be adequate, he thought, even though he found himself hardening as he remembered the tight heat that had surrounded his length.

He heard Arwen’s soft, musical voice call out to him, and returned to his room.

Faramir slid carefully onto the hard wooden chair at the breakfast table later that morning. To his utter mortification, the soreness in his lower body persisted, as if to remind him constantly of the very matter that weighed so heavily in his mind.

Surely though, Denethor would be in a better mood. After all he had been out of his sight for two entire days, he thought, as he helped himself o a generous portion of bread. He was extremely hungry now, having eaten nothing other than the apple since the previous afternoon. However, there was no trace of anything but coldness in Denethor’s voice, as he informed him that he wished to see his previously assigned work on the Haradric treaties as well as a report on the areas visited in Ithilien.

“You have spent ample time picnicking in the woods. I suggest you get back to work now.”

This was followed by a few caustic barbs about the amount of breakfast he was eating and his good fortune in having had two days of leisurely riding in the woods, while others had worked hard. Faramir said nothing, although he did stop eating after that.

He may have found his deepest desires fulfilled two nights ago but little had changed otherwise, he realised almost bleakly.

The day passed slowly, as he returned to his usual work. He redid some work on the Haradric treaties that his father had declared sloppy. Then he met with the chief scribe who allotted a set of treaties on trade levies for him to research. He wandered through the archives looking for reference texts, wondering idly if he might not bump into the king. He recollected Elessar mentioning that he had no councils today. Perhaps he might come to the archives. He stayed there till evening, working distractedly, looking up at every small sound, seeking the king in everyone who entered the reading area. He finally returned to the Steward’s houses barely in time for dinner, and finally made it to bed, tired and dispirited.

He fell into a restless sleep, his head swirling with thoughts of the king.
He hoped Elessar would desire to be with him soon. Perhaps, the next night, he wondered. Perhaps after the council, Elessar would take him aside and inform him of their next tryst. He would lean up and kiss the king in agreement, let his tongue wander through the delightful caverns of the king’s mouth, even as the bristles on his chin would tease Faramir’s skin.
He would move his mouth down that wonderfully strong frame, over the hardened muscles of his chest and stomach, through the thickening line of dark hair down to his splendid erect member. He would take the king in his mouth this time, working his tongue up and down the hardness before taking it in completely. He had pleased other lovers greatly by doing so.

He woke early the next morning, his sheets in disarray and his hands clasping his sticky, limp member, from a dream of which all he could recollect was that he had been naked, and the king had been present. To his embarrassment his release coated his lower body in large white streaks.

He rose and readied himself for his sword practice, still shaky from the intensity of his feelings. Despite the feelings he had for the king, he had not imagined that actually having been intimate with him would release such a maelstrom of sensations inside him.

He managed to get through his training with no more than the usual criticisms from the armsmaster. His muscles still hurt from the riding and his movements were slow but his usually good footwork and inherent skill kept him from performing too poorly.

The council that day began soon after breakfast. Faramir sat through the discussions on levies on dwarven ales, with mounting impatience. He tried to keep from stealing frequent glances at the king. Elessar’s handsome face was as usual in a council, impassive and full of concentration. Their glances did meet over the quick luncheon meal that was served in the council room, but the king’s expression stayed inscrutable. Faramir though had flushed deeply.

They finished late in the evening. Faramir deliberately gathered his papers together extremely slowly, waiting for the other councillors to leave. As he arranged the last few papers, he heard the king’s voice, soft yet urgent.

“Would you stay behind a while?”

He looked up happily, only to realise that the king was speaking to Lord Caleth, the councillor from Lossarnach.

“The Steward and I wish to hear your views on the Rhunic cropping practices that our envoy has written to us of. Perhaps you could dine with us after that. The queen is very fond of the vales of Lossarnach and shall be delighted to hear your tales of them.”

Elessar was facing away from him. Faramir continued to stand there, fiddling with his papers, willing the king to turn and at least glance at him.
Denethor strode towards him, blocking his view of the king and Faramir felt a wave of panic assail him. Had his father noticed that his attention was more on the king than on the council?

“Have your report on the Ithilien visit ready tomorrow,” Denethor said sharply, “The council will discuss the king’s visit later this week.”

“Yes, father,” he said quietly. Out of the corner of his eye, he noticed the king walking away with Caleth.

Elessar stopped suddenly and turned. Faramir felt his mouth go dry.

“Denethor! Caleth tells me his lady mother, could be persuaded to join us for supper. Would you join us too? We shall make a fine meal of it!”

“Certainly,” Denethor said, “And yes, Caleth, you must indeed persuade Lady Idril to join us.” He walked away to join the king. The three men strode out of the council chamber, talking amongst themselves.

Faramir slipped away, his face and neck warm as he flushed. He felt strange and embarrassed. He returned to find an early cold supper laid out on the table. He would be eating alone, he was informed. Denethor had sent Andreth a message calling him to dinner in the king’s chambers.

He picked at his supper moodily. He should be used to being ignored, he thought, as he finished and made his way towards his room, morosely. He began working on the report on Ithilien, and found his frame of mind improving somewhat, as he methodically began listing down his findings and assessments of the places they had passed through. Their return may have been impacted by rain, but that could be useful in pointing out the need for new roads to the forest lands.

He worked through a large part of the night and left the report, along with one of the reports for the Haradric treaties in his father’s study early the next morning. Denethor seemed in a very good frame of mind at breakfast. He ignored Faramir completely but talked cheerfully with Andreth, about something which Faramir guessed might be related to their banquet the prior night. He noted curiously that much of his father’s conversation seemed to centre on Lady Idril. Well, as far as his father stayed in so fine a mood, he thought.

Denethor summoned him later that morning. Faramir knew at a glance that the cheerfulness of the morning was gone and he was in for more admonishment. He chewed at his lower lip worriedly, as Denethor rose, a sheaf of papers in his hands.

“Look at Ardahil’s report and look at yours,” he raged, “His report is concise and relevant. Yours is shoddy! You have gone into unnecessary details on the consistency of the mud!”

He listened silently, as Denethor continued. Ardahil’s report was apparently more concise and more relevant. He tried to point out that their reasons for the visit had been different but Denethor would not let him get a word in edgewise.

“You were sent on this journey to do something useful!” Denethor continued, advancing towards him, even as Faramir backed away a little, “That is why I let you discontinue your work on the Haradric treaties for those two days!
What you have given me so far on the treaties is of no use either. There is nothing here on the river trading rights that were discussed earlier between Harad and the southern lands. We could use that as a framework for our new treaties!” Denethor said tossing Faramir’s notes at him.

“But the scribes were to cover that portion,” Faramir said softly, “I was to cover the portion on –”

The slap that interrupted was not entirely unexpected, but Faramir gasped nevertheless at the impact, and almost immediately moved backwards, even as his glance flew towards a large decorative whip hung on the wall. He almost fled from the room right then.

“Enough!” Denethor snapped out, “I have no use for your excuses any longer.
You will redo both these reports for me. Leave now.”

Faramir took the reports, his hands shaking a little, and then fled to the archives. Once inside, he sank into one of the benches in a reading room by the gardens, and stared blankly at the reports for a while.

After a while, he picked up the Ithilien report and began leafing through it. His father was most displeased with him. He would redo his work, he told himself shakily. He would work really hard, for longer hours, and with more effort, so that he could please his father. He stayed inside all day, even foregoing the luncheon meal.

When he finally left the archives, the clouds that had hung over the city had cleared somewhat though the sun had begun to sink. He made his way through the gardens walking through the shaded pathways that skirted the new lawns neatly landscaped by the queen.

He heard them before he saw them; the queen’s lilting laughter mingled with the deeper, masculine tones of the king. He lingered behind a tall bush, watching them as they walked together along the walkway by the citadel walls, their tone light and cheerful. They turned around at the end of the walkway, and Faramir slipped behind a tree as the queen seemed to incline her head in his direction. They continued walking down, the king with his arm wrapped around the queen’s shoulders. As Faramir watched furtively, the conversation grew hushed, they stopped walking and stood by the walls.
Elessar pulled the queen close and bent down to kiss her on her lips.
Faramir watched mutely as the kiss deepened and then Elessar’s hands moved off the queen’s shoulders, one down her back and the other onto her bosom, the fingers inching under her bodice. As the queen’s arms wrapped around the king, and a low, intense moan was let out by one of them, Faramir walked swiftly away, back the way he had come.

Dinner was a tiring affair. He picked at his food, trying not to remember the sight of the king almost entwined around his queen. Denethor and Andreth ignored him again, and for once he too paid little attention to their talk.

He went to sleep, with his mind full of images of the king. Only this time, it was he Elessar was kissing, the bristled jaw rubbed against Faramir’s chin and neck, and the long fingers danced over Faramir’s naked body, roving all over his body, over his chest, his nipples, his buttocks, his stomach, wrapping around his swollen, aching shaft. When he woke the next morning, he found he had soiled his sheets again, and groaned.

The next few days passed much the same way. Each day Faramir attended council meetings and worked on the reports his father or the chief scribe demanded and each night he fell asleep with thoughts of the king swirling in his head. He watched the king as discreetly as he could; seeking for just a sign that he noticed him more. He would arrive for council early and leave late, intent on providing every possible opportunity to the king. The king instead seemed to notice him less. He would arrive at council with Denethor and leave with some council member or the other, apart from Faramir. Each morning, Faramir would experience an intense nervousness as he would anticipate a summons each day, only to wind up each evening feel deflated and disappointed.

A week passed by since their return. As the next week began, Faramir found himself turning all the more apprehensive, wondering if the king had perhaps merely been kind in offering to see him again. He found himself thinking back to their last conversation in the shelter over and over again. He wandered aimlessly through the citadel hoping to glimpse the king. He stumbled through sword practise, angering the armmaster, and then annoyed Denethor by giving him the wrong report to go through. It resulted in further berating, and a slap.

Another week passed too. The queen held a dinner banquet at the end of the week, just before she was to journey to the golden wood for a month. Faramir was not invited. The beautifully written invitation came addressed specifically to Denethor and Andreth. Faramir had another lonely and silent cold supper that night. Denethor had given many of the kitchen staff the evening off.

After supper, he set out for a stroll in the gardens. He walked slowly and for long, trying not to think of anything at all, massaging his injured shoulder gently as he did so. The armsmaster had been put him through a strenuous session that morning, angered by the way his concentration kept slipping.

“Faramir!”

He felt his mouth go dry as he recognised the king’s voice, calling out his name, just as in his dreams. The strong, clear voice. He was near the king’s houses, he realised. The queen had used an open terrace and the garden beyond it for her banquet, and he had nearly wandered in, uninvited. He shrank back into the trees.

“Faramir,” the king said again and began walking up the garden path and the trees towards him. He turned slowly and stared back at the king, drinking in the sight of him at such nearness, taking in the fluid, graceful manner in which he moved.

“Sire,” he managed to almost squeak out before his throat closed in again.

“I wanted to tell you -,” the king began, only to be interrupted.

“Estel, there you are!” The queen was walking across the lawn, her skirts lifted above the wet grass, “Some of our guests are ready to leave.”

She came to a halt when she saw Faramir. The younger man shifted uncomfortably as she subjected him to a hard, appraising glance.

“F-forgive me,” Faramir stammered, “I stumbled into these gardens in error.
I was merely walking through the gardens and lost track of my route.”

The queen turned away, towards the king. “Do come Estel,” she told him, and turning around walked away.

The king stared after her, before turning to glance at Faramir. “I will continue our conversation on the morrow. Perhaps if you were to arrive for council earlier than usual?”

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78 Comment(s)

More please! It’s a lovely beginning. I’m enjoying the originality of your idea, as well as the tantalizing glimpses into Faramir’s pain.

— Laurel    Monday 7 May 2007, 3:43    #

gasp That’s it?! Please, please please. I’m loving the dynamics you’ve set up thus far. Please continue posting.

— somerset    Monday 7 May 2007, 14:41    #

Minx, you are wonderful. I’ve been a fan of yours for a while, and you do not disappoint. I can’t wait for more!

— sweet baby turtle    Monday 7 May 2007, 17:14    #

i’m hooked! more please?

— traveller    Tuesday 8 May 2007, 23:56    #

Oh, I can’t wait for more. Poor Faramir. I hope Aragorn doesn’t forget him.

— crazy kitty    Wednesday 9 May 2007, 5:21    #

I love how Minx writes Faramir stories. :) Please update Grief and Hope as soon as possible.

— Vicki    Wednesday 16 May 2007, 1:46    #

I’m loving it :)

— Ness    Wednesday 23 May 2007, 17:12    #

Poor Faramir! And the “grief” part is still building up isn’t it? Looking forward for the updates on the “hope” part!
Great writing Minx!

dream.in.a.jar    Wednesday 6 June 2007, 15:38    #

Damn you for catching me in a WIP! Interesting mix so far, especially Andreth.

— Bell Witch    Thursday 7 June 2007, 2:07    #

awwe my poor sweet faramir!hugs

— daze    Wednesday 20 June 2007, 2:23    #

Wonderful! Looking forward to the next part, hopefully soon!
You are the best!
Thanks.

— zion    Monday 25 June 2007, 12:55    #

This story is heartbreaking, I ache for Faramir and it’s like I have this constant knot in my stomach… you write his despair wonderfully, I really feel for him.

I’m really looking forward to reading the rest, I have to say.

— Mouse    Thursday 2 August 2007, 22:01    #

Thanks Mouse. I’m glad you like the fic.:)

Minx    Sunday 5 August 2007, 14:44    #

This story is absolutely wonderful! I’ve read most of your stories, Minx, and I love them all, but this one..This one is really catching me. “Walk No More In The Shadows”, with Iris, is the other one I’m really addicted to, I’ve read both of them many times..I hope you update this one soon. Again, wonderful job!

— Christine    Friday 10 August 2007, 0:21    #

Thanks a ton for such lovely words Christine) I’ll be updating very soon!

Minx    Friday 10 August 2007, 18:59    #

I would like to congratulate you on a story well done. I love the way your wrote Faramir but Denethor is something else. Can;t wait for the next chapter.

— balrog    Sunday 12 August 2007, 9:35    #

I’m absolutely adoring this story, and I’d like to congratulate you too. I’ve read a few of your stories on another site, so imagine my pleasure to come across this little treasure trove! :)
I love how you write Faramir (in this story and the others too). It’s so beautiful. I do enjoy a troubled Faramir.. aren’t we sadists? Bah… I won’t care if you don’t :)

I hope to be able to read more of this soon!!

— Chel    Sunday 18 November 2007, 22:30    #

Are you going to write more? You really, really need too. It’s really good so far; and I love the way you write about Faramir.

— Faramir's Fan    Sunday 6 January 2008, 21:12    #

thank you Faramir’s Fan:) More is in the offing, and should be up soon!

Minx    Monday 25 February 2008, 16:02    #

oh, i can’t wait for the next chapter and for aragorn to find out about faramir’s back.

— Lisa Poole    Wednesday 5 March 2008, 19:41    #

love it; so glad to see you update, have been waiting for it for so long, and i have to say it is worth.

— traveller    Thursday 6 March 2008, 22:37    #

@Lisa: Thank you for reading:) I hop eto have the next chapter up sonner than I had this one up:o) Aragorn and Faramir are sure going to have interesting times ahead!

@traveller: Thank you! And thank you for keeping up with the delay:o I’m delighted you liked it!:)

minx    Sunday 9 March 2008, 10:13    #

I’m enjoying your story very much, and am very glad to have found it. I’ve been poking about your other stories as well and I have to say you’re my favorite Faramir author around. I hope you plan on adding more to this story soon!

— Silverkit    Tuesday 25 March 2008, 3:46    #

Thank you Silverkit for such kind words! I’m delighted you liked this and the other stories as well. Hope to update soon:)

minx    Wednesday 26 March 2008, 15:51    #

I love both characters in this, and am looking forward to some tenderness between them, as I think you write those scenes so well.

— pinbot    Wednesday 16 April 2008, 21:51    #

Thank you pinbot! I’m delighted you’re enjoying the fic, and I do hope to have some reasonably tender scenes coming up some time.

minx    Sunday 27 April 2008, 11:01    #

Can’t wait until you have more for me to read. This new chapter is very well written and now I’m tensed to see what shall happen next.

— Elindil    Sunday 11 May 2008, 19:55    #

I am SO glad that there is a new chapter of this wonderful story! Thanks, I look forward to next one.

— Melogale    Tuesday 3 June 2008, 16:28    #

This latest chapter is so moving, as it captures the sadness of just how little Faramir is willing to settle for, as he doesn’t feel worthy of being loved….

— ebbingnight    Tuesday 3 June 2008, 17:21    #

I am so loving this story. More please whenever you can.

— Kelly    Tuesday 3 June 2008, 21:17    #

What a treat to have another installment by my favorite author! Normally I stay away from WIPs but this one has been irresistible. Please Minx, drop everything else you’re doing and write more!!

— Laurel    Wednesday 4 June 2008, 4:37    #

have i tell you how much i love this story? and this chapter is SO sexy! love it, more pleeeeeeeease!!!

— traveller    Thursday 5 June 2008, 16:11    #

Elindil: thank you:) I’m delighted you liked this chapter. Hope to have more up soon.

Minx    Saturday 7 June 2008, 6:08    #

Melogale: Thank you for reading! I hope to have the next chapter up quicker than this one:)

Minx    Saturday 7 June 2008, 6:11    #

ebbingnight: I’m glad that works. Faramir is indeed willing to settle for very little right now… he doesn’t feel either loved or wanted by anyone:o

Minx    Saturday 7 June 2008, 6:18    #

Kelly: thank you! I do hope to update sooner:)

Minx    Saturday 7 June 2008, 6:18    #

Laurel: thank you for reading:) I understand your relutctance to read WIPs so I really appreciate that you read this. I would love to drop everything and write more of this:)

Minx    Saturday 7 June 2008, 6:18    #

traveller: Thank you for loving this story:) I’m glad this chapter worked. hope to have more soon!

Minx    Saturday 7 June 2008, 6:21    #

I just wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed this story thus far…I can’t wait to see what happens when they get to ithelien (is that how you spell it?) I kinda hope Arwen doesn’t become totally pissed off, but whatever you do I’m sure it will be great!

eringobraugh007    Tuesday 1 July 2008, 5:13    #

I really liked this story, just wanted to let you know! Please continue!! :)

— Haily    Friday 5 December 2008, 5:37    #

thanks Haily. I hope to have a new chapter up soon.

— minx    Thursday 18 December 2008, 21:04    #

I love this story so much! It feels a little like it’s my birthday with each new chapter ;)
Thank you for writing this – you’re the best!

iris    Tuesday 20 January 2009, 17:10    #

As much as I like this story (and have been following it since you first started it), all the emphasis on the “grief” part of “grief and hope” is a bit depressing. Is Faramir forever going to be stuck in a cycle of depression where he is constantly reminded of his “inferiority”? Will he ever show the confidance we know he’s capable of? Will Aragorn/Arwen/anyone else be anything more than indifferent to him? Will he ever get the guts to talk back to Denethor? It’s my personal hope that you will have a positive ending to this story (however long it is ;D), but if not it’s certainly a good worst case senario if events in LOTR didn’t happen as Tolkien originally wrote them. Eagerly awaiting the next chapter!

— Chantal    Tuesday 20 January 2009, 19:01    #

Aaaargh!!!! You’re killing me! Why does Aragorn have to be such a bastard? Why is Arwen such a bitch? And poor wubbly Faramir! Come to me honey! I’ll love you! Sigh. I know you’ll get to the ‘hope’ part soon (right???), just after you finish torturing us all. Glad Arwen is going away for awhile – that’s hopeful right? My big fear is that in naming it ‘Grief and Hope,’ you didn’t make any promises. ‘Hope’ after all doesn’t equal ‘satisfaction.’ Hope can be unfounded, unfulfilled, unmet, unrealized…Please let my fears be for naught. Please?

— Vanwa Hravani    Wednesday 21 January 2009, 17:58    #

Iris: I’m truly delighted you like this:) I hope to give you birthday time again soon:))

— Minx    Thursday 22 January 2009, 19:10    #

Chantal: I’m really delighted you like this story! About the grief aspect being more, and Faramir being less confident… well, part of the thing in this AU is that Fara does not get the same opportunities here that he did otherwise. Here, he’s sort of unimportant, because he has no role really. Denethor is lready steward and he’s not even next in line right now:o But yes, he will probably evoke less indifference later down the story and have a slightly better and more hope-filled time:)

— minx    Thursday 22 January 2009, 19:12    #

Vanwa Hravani: You’ll have to queue up to hug Fara:) I think the hope will get realised a bit, just maybe not right now. Arwen may be away but these two are still very new to each other:o)
Thank you for reading:)

— Minx    Thursday 22 January 2009, 19:16    #

I really enjoy this story, and in the spirit of 5 years of this wonderful site, I thought I’d let you know. There are just oodles of feelings work into this and nothing seems as straightforward as it could be. I do hope you’ll update soon and let us know a bit more about where this story is going!

— Jo    Friday 6 March 2009, 14:05    #

Thank you Jo! Yes, nothing is as it seems here:) I’m very glad that the feelings come out, I felt it would be needed in an AU like this. I do hope to update soon, RL notwithstanding. thank you again!:)

— Minx    Sunday 8 March 2009, 10:54    #

Oh Minx, I don’t know what to say. first I would like you to know how truly in love I am with your stories. This one and Walk no more… stories are my favorite ones. I’m sure you alredy know this and I don’t think that my oppinion will matter, but you are a true writer. You have such a way with building up the tensions and nothing feels puched, everything happens for a reason, not just because. I would also like to thank you for starting this whole website, if you could call it that. hte stories that are here, and mainly yours, have helped me to see that there is still hope and also I now feel that I am aloud to cry. For the first time in almost sixteen years I am crying and it feels so strange and yet so reveling. You have made my sleepless nights easier, and the times I wake up from my nightmares I know that this stories are here to comfort me and take my minds elsewhere. I’m sure you get this types of comment all the time but I just wanted to say Thank you.

— Ingrid    Wednesday 27 May 2009, 13:12    #

I absolutely adore this fic, I hope it gets updated soon!

— Sue    Friday 26 June 2009, 13:56    #

Ingrid, Sue: thank you! I’m sorry for the delay in responding. But, yes,
I am trying to get the next chapter up as soon as I can

— Minx    Saturday 17 October 2009, 11:43    #

I, too, adore this fic and hope that it has not been forgotten.

— pinbot    Saturday 1 May 2010, 19:20    #

I, too, adore this fic and hope that it has not been forgotten.

I second that! ;)

iris    Sunday 2 May 2010, 13:45    #

Me three :)

— Ingrid    Sunday 2 May 2010, 21:24    #

Pinbot, Iris, Ingrid: Not forgotten… but I did get a little stuck last year in RL, sooo… but I am in the middle of the next chapter, so here’s hoping:)

— Minx    Monday 3 May 2010, 18:37    #

Hurray! What an amazing surprise. Thanks for the satisfying, if still very painful on Faramir’s part, update.

— pinbot    Wednesday 16 June 2010, 20:51    #

I’m echoing Pinbot’s hurray … I keep re-reading this story so I’m very excited to see an update.

— Mira Took    Thursday 17 June 2010, 7:02    #

Breaking our hearts all over again, are we? Lovely to see this update at last!

— ebbingnight    Thursday 17 June 2010, 15:53    #

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

— fëawen    Thursday 17 June 2010, 19:49    #

Pibbot, Mira, Ebbingnight, Feawen: Thank you all so much for continuing to read despite my awful slowness! Poor fara is definitely going through the wringer here… hands him around for hugs and kisses

— Minx    Monday 21 June 2010, 19:07    #

More please! This is the best fanfic ever! Please don’t end it :)
I like Denethor-Faramir scenes
maybe u should write more about those two
it’s nice the way u write about how denethor torture his younger son

— A    Thursday 15 July 2010, 7:58    #

A: thank you! I’m delighted you’re liking it. there will be more Denethor-Faramir scenes, never fear:) Denethor has quite a bit he wants to say to his son!

— Minx    Monday 19 July 2010, 17:33    #

This story is wonderful! The way all of the characters interact with each other is extremely believable and the slow progression of their relationships is very realistic. I’m a little bit in love with your writing style.

I do hope you haven’t forgotten about this because I’d love to find out what happens next. :)

— Isabel    Monday 28 November 2011, 23:34    #

Isabel: I’m so sorry, I missed out o your feedback earlier. thank yoiu for your lovely words… I’m really delighted you like the way it flows. I haven’t forgotten about it, I’m just looking for a long run of quiet time :o sigh hopefully will get some soon!

Minx    Thursday 26 January 2012, 11:10    #

YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH I NEED YOU TO CONTINUE THIS. I need Aragorn to understand how he’s affecting poor Faramir, and I need Faramir to gain some closure on this whole ordeal and stand up for himself in Denethor’s presence. Please tell me that you aren’t giving up on this amazing and complex story. It’s paining me to see Faramir go through all of this.

— Fan    Saturday 26 January 2013, 2:28    #

Fan – Thank you so much for reading! I’m sooo sorry it’s been on hold for so long. I sort of reached a block on it, got stuck with other stuff in RL and then got blocked further more. It is as you say, a little complex so returning to it is taking me very long :( But I’m trying to finish it, I haven’t given up on it…. I’m hoping soon I’ll be able to unblock myself and progress. Thank you for the support…

Minx    Tuesday 29 January 2013, 14:10    #

Ooh!! “Completely smutty” is what you promised, and completely smutty is what you delivered! But it’s not just straight-up, mechanical porn smut — or at least not for F’s part. I love the bitter sweet longing; F’s so happy to get just this, but at the same time so desperate for more.
Great stuff — as always. Thank you so much for sharing!

iris    Monday 22 April 2013, 20:34    #

Tsk tsk tsk, bad Aragorn playing pranks when he´s awaited so desperately! (slap) ;) And apart from that: Beautiful work! And now I have to go thinking about the more juicy complicate parts…

— raven22372    Tuesday 23 April 2013, 9:22    #

Thanks :) I love this story. I am waitinng the next.

— katiedaly    Tuesday 23 April 2013, 15:34    #

Сan’t wait for more. For some mysterious reasons absolutely in love with your deprived and unfulfilled Faramir, though the state you are putting him in makes my heart aches. Pain is so close to pleasure:)

— LID    Thursday 25 April 2013, 10:42    #

Iris – thank you!:) I’m so glad all of that worked…:) hugs

Raven – yes, he’s baaad :) I’m very glad you liked it, and happy thinking juicy thoughts:)

Katiedaly – thank you ever so much for continuing to read despite my tardiness. i’m delighted you liked it!

LID – Thank you:) I’m glad all of that worked! It’s always nice to come across a fellow lover of deprived and unfulfilled Faramir :)

Minx    Thursday 25 April 2013, 17:22    #

Dear Minx, I first came across this site and this story several years ago, yet I never left a comment despite the way this particular work moved me and drew me in from the very first sentence. So now that I’ve happened to find this site again, I thought it was high time I actually told you how much I admire your writing and how beautifully I think you capture everything you set out to do :)

It’s been truly heartachingly wonderful to reread this and even more so to discover that since then you’ve actually written some more chapters and seem to never have entirely forgotten about this, when no doubt it must be difficult to get back into the story and its emotional frame of mind time and again. Faramir’s sorrow and tentative hope, too often quashed as not to get lost in the inevitable despair of unfulfilled longing, his grief over both his brother’s death and the seemingly ever-growing impossibility of being a family with his father and nephew, his wish to find a place – any place, really – to belong and feel secure of, the bittersweet tenderness of his observations and the perpetual struggle to not totally accept perceived shortcomings as his own, his curiosity and need to learn of other cultures and the wish to not give up – all these aspects of Faramir’s personality are quite palpable and render your portrayal of him as believable and touching and human as can possibly be done. I really enjoy that there is far more to Faramir than morose and unhappy feelings, that underneath it all he is still the scholar, the gentle soul and faithful integrity.

But Aragorn, too, is remarkably complex. It’s amazing, I think, that with these few glimpses you’ve given us we still know him to be a stern but kind ruler, a loving husband and father, a grieving friend and, of course, the ranger of old. He, too, seems so very believably human in that he succumbs to the ever-present comparison of Faramir to his dead and beloved brother, even though he still tries to see beyond that and reconcile what he sees with what Boromir told him about his brother. His bemusement at Faramir’s wish to touch and be intimate in more ways than he is used to with men also gives his character another interesting aspect. Heartbreaking as it is to feel Faramir’s resigned acceptance and his decision to be content with whatever affection Aragorn may offer him, Aragorn’s obvious different views and feelings make sense in themselves and show him to be a person still open to grow and learn.

I also appreciate how you write Denethor. It’s nice to see him as more than the stereotypical abuser. Rather, it seems indeed as if his violent and abusive behaviour towards his son stems from his own unabated grief, his inability to come to terms with everything that happened and maybe even as part of the madness the palantír stirred in him.

The last point, however, I’d like to mention, and the one which makes this story, in my opinion, even better than your character portrayals already do, is the many questions these chapters keep bringing up. What, I wonder, will be Lady Idril’s part in this? Is Denethor finally looking for a new love? Is she just a friend or will she become one more reason for Faramir to feel left out of the family? May Denethor in time even wish to remarry and want his son out of his home? Or could she be someone to bring Denethor to at least view his son in a more positive light, even if he may never come to realize his worth?

What about Arwen? What do her glances and inscrutable looks mean? Is she aware of Aragorn’s intimacy with other men? Has he told her about Boromir? Does she read both Faramir and her husband’s hearts more shrewdly than they do themselves? Does she perceive a threat? Is there perhaps more to her comments and does she, as well, wonder about the Steward’s family?

When will Andreth start to ask questions? How much does he already know? Will Faramir’s financial worries become more urgent? When will the King finally catch on to just how much wrong there is about Faramir and his father’s relationship? And what of the Northern rangers? Is there too little communication between them and their Southern kin for word to reach Aragorn just how much of a capable captain Faramir used to be? Does he even know how Faramir helping Frodo and Sam on their way in Ithilien changed the outcome of the war? So many questions … :)

So, thank you so much for writing and sharing this! This truly is one of the most compelling stories I’ve ever read and I’m really glad I remembered this site, after all.

Have a happy New Year and may the muse visit you again some time in the future, even if it may be another year from now :)

— Loreley    Monday 13 January 2014, 23:00    #

@Loreley: Thank you for taking the time to leave this review and such a detailed one at that. It really made my day to read this, and also made me wish I could be a lot more regular in updating this fic. I’m sorry to take so long to respond.

Thank you for such lovely words. I’m only too glad there were some new chapters for you to read. I have been undeniably slow on this one. I’m heartened that Faramir comes across as you have written, with his wish to find a place he belongs to and his thirst for learning. He is certainly still a scholar and in this particular story I think gentle is one word that describes him very well. It is all the more a contrast to Denethor’s anger at him.

I am extremely glad too that Aragorn comes across as complex and human. He is used to a different kind of male friendship especially when it is more sexual than platonic – one where the friend sees himself as an equal and has the same expectations out of their intimacy that Aragorn has. Faramir unfortunately enough does not quite see him as an equal – he is too overwhelmed by Aragorn’s rank and achievements and also cowed down by his perceived shortcomings. He is also cowed down by a given cultural context where he may not allow a non-platonic relationship to progress beyond a point simply because it is not the done thing. And Aragorn doesn’t really understand right now how much he means to Faramir. In my mind while Faramir has fallen headlong in love with Aragorn, Aragorn himself has not really reached a stage where he thinks of himself in love with anyone other than Arwen whom he has loved for years. Even with Boromir, while he recollects him vividly, it is more from a sense of brotherhood and the joint tribulations of their journey together. With Faramir he has no such linkages and no such experiences, but as you rightly point out he may still learn what it could be like to slowly fall in love with another person.

Denethor is indeed still coming to terms with everything. He would rather concentrate on Andreth and to him Faramir is possibly just a distraction and an unpleasant reminder of what he lost.

As to your questions, well, Lady Idril will have a brief role and may indeed steer Denethor to some direction. Arwen will have something to say of Aragorn’s intimacies in the next few chapters. Andreth is aware that there is strife, but he is young and like most young men he’s not really cognizant of what happens in the lives of others. He grieves for Boromir and misses him and he is fond of Denethor so may care of what he goes through. But with Faramir his relationship is undeveloped. I like to think Denethor involuntarily made it so, by keeping Andreth close and encouraging him to be more like Boromir and less like Faramir. Aragorn knows at the back of his mind that Faramir has once been a capable captain. But he is for now more concerned about the now. And Faramir’s injuries have reduced his physical capabilities. What Aragorn and others need to realise is that hi mental acuity for now remains strong.

I wish you a very happy new year too and thank you again greatly for your lovely review. It encourages me to be a little more diligent in getting back to this. I have been very distracted by RL but I do want to work towards finishing this. :)

Minx    Monday 20 January 2014, 9:41    #

update soon, please!!!!!!

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— Nimrodel    Tuesday 15 April 2014, 0:20    #

More than a year later, and hello again!

Recently I’ve had some time to come back here and re-read not only this favourite but also some of your other stories. It was great to find that this story is still as emotionally captivating to me as it was the first and all the other times after I read it, when sometimes I find that I’ve changed so much that I wonder what exactly it was about a story that got me hooked. Your writing, and “Grief and Hope” in particular, however, still have the same pull they used to, perhaps even more so than before – after all, so much time has been spent wondering and asking questions and hoping Faramir might yet get the happy ending he deserves that it feels I’m more invested than I would be if I’d already had all the answers. Finding a positive side to a long time in-between updates :) Still true, though.

In comparison to your other longer works, though, I feel that this story is more balanced somehow. At least, I get the impression that all the characters are more complex here than in your other stories, making their development and substance both more believable and real to me as a reader. I’ve enjoyed all the different takes on Faramir you’ve done, yet this Faramir is “more” to me in a way than the Faramirs in your other writings. There is a very delicate subtlety in your portrayal of him that makes him more tangible and accessible. Please don’t get me wrong, I, like most of the readers on this site, love hurt/comfort stories and so don’t mind a more subdued and cowered Faramir, but I still really like the quiet strength Faramir has here, even more so than in “The King and the Ranger”. Plus, I’m a huge fan of Denethor (flaws and all, to me one of the most fascinating characters in LotR), and as I’ve said before, I like what you’ve made of him here.

So while, of course, I would love to see this story continued sometime in the future (and who doesn’t know RL taking more time than we’d like?), what you’ve written so far stands well enough on its own, and I’d like to say thanks again for sharing this much with us readers already. Some unfinished works are still so much more satsifying and moving to read than many finished stories, and as long as I can come back here and enjoy all the splendid work, I’ll be content and happy with what you’ve accomplished so far. Great work!

— Loreley    Sunday 19 April 2015, 17:52    #

At least once a year I come back to this truly wonderful, beautifully written story. Sometimes I wonder whether or not I misremember its compelling tone, fascinating characterizations or moving story line – silly me! From the very first sentence I’ve been drawn in without fail every single time. I don’t know if you still ever visit this site or read these comments, but I sincerely hope you do. Thank you so much for writing and sharing this – and for leaving it online! I hope to re-read this many times still to come :)

— Loreley    Saturday 19 October 2019, 17:46    #

In recent years I haven’t read much LotR fanfiction, but this work is one I still keep coming back to time and again … Grief and hope, indeed! And not just for Faramir, I think. Despite and because of his role, I would still love to see Denethor truly happy again as well. Although I fear that true happiness may forever elude him, after having lost his wife and his eldest son as well as, yes: his hope!, no matter that here he has a grandson to dote on, well, as far as one such as Denethor would ever dote on anyone … Arwen remains as mysterious and unreadable to me as ever in this story. Such an interesting character! Does she sense her husband’s budding curiosity and fear what may come of it? Or does it run even deeper, does she glimpse more of both Faramir’s and her husband’s thoughts and hearts than either of them do themselves? Also, I wonder, does or will Faramir ever feel guilty for – potentially – coming between his king and queen … and possibly depriving Eldarion of his parents’ happiness? As many times as I’ve read these chapters now, it has actually just this time occurred to me that, thus far, we haven’t really seen Aragorn the father here. Will Faramir soon meet his successor as Captain of the Ithilien rangers? Will his men ever play their own part in ackowledging their captain’s greatness and strong will when standing against the darkness? What will they say to their northern kin in defense of their steadfast and gentle leader? Such a long time and still so many questions keep coming :) Thank you again so much! For this lovely and bittersweet work, for the time you spent on this and, as always, for sharing it with us …

— Loreley    Monday 17 May 2021, 19:26    #

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