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Grief and Hope (NC-17) Print

Written by Minx

21 April 2013 | 40330 words | Work in Progress

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Chapter 4

Faramir rose slowly, stumbling as pain assailed him. His entire body felt on fire, and he felt tears spring to his eyes as he moved towards the door. He clutched at the heavy wood and stood still a few seconds, closing his eyes and leaning his head against the hard surface. Sharp twinges of pain laced through his entire body. He bit his lip and moved again, using the walls as a support as he made his way to his chambers slowly. Once there, he let himself fall upon the bed. He should rise and look at the cuts, he knew but he couldn’t. He still felt a little shocked at Denethor’s words and the ferocity of his actions. Denethor had always had a quick temper, especially where Faramir was concerned, but it had been many years since Denethor had let his anger out physically, usually preferring words instead. The slap to his face the earlier day had been startling but the vehemence with which Denethor had beaten him now with a riding crop left Faramir confused, and he realised bleakly, scared. He found himself breathing heavily and rapidly unable to forget the sight of the riding crop descending on his unprotected body. He flushed from the humiliation of the thought of lying there helpless, as the crop had struck repeatedly. He had done nothing to defend himself save curl up so as to protect his body, not that that had worked, for he realised he had been struck on his back, stomach and legs.

He lay there for a while, trying to ignore the pain but unable to. Age had not lessened Denethor’s strength. He had been liberal with the crop, striking Faramir at least one score times. He finally rose very slowly and removed his tunic, dismayed to note that it stuck a little to his back. He tugged at the cloth and hissed as it pulled painfully at his broken skin, and then lowered his pants, aware that his lower body had been struck too. He examined his naked body in the dim light of the lantern. The marks had begun to show up, deep and dark, for the crop had struck hard. A thin line of dark red marked out the deepest one that had cut through skin. His back, stomach, abdomen and the tops of his thighs were all covered with the ugly red marks crisscrossing over his paled skin.

He found some shrivelled up healing herbs in his cupboard and soaked them in a bowl of water. Dipping a soft cloth in it, he slowly ran it over each cut, hissing a little as the herbs stung the open skin. He mopped up the thin beads of blood that glistened on some of the cuts. He managed to take care of his stomach and parts of his back and flushed as he contorted himself a little to try and reach for his buttocks. When he’d managed to run the cloth over most of his cuts, Faramir lay down on the bed again, trying to find a comfortable position. The night air felt cool against his bare skin but the coarse blankets on his bed only added to his discomfort so he finally curled up on his side, wincing with each movement as the skin was pulled.

He tried not to think of the beating or the shame he felt, yet those were the last thoughts on his mind as he fell asleep.

He woke later than usual the next morning, unwilling at first to even rise at all. But then he remembered that the memorial service was the same day and found himself rising hurriedly, almost crying out as pain laced through his aching body. In the bright sunlight that flooded through his windows, the marks on his body looked particularly ugly, and he found himself wincing at the sight of the purpling marks. The fainter marks were beginning to show up as well, thin lines of deep red. He rose, swaying a little as his stiff limbs protested and hurried through his preparations, even though he still hurt all over. After washing up, he pulled out a set of clothes from his wardrobe quickly. The clothes he’d worn the previous day were completely ruined, littered as they were with cuts, and he had to wear on an older tunic and trousers, the cloth having softened enough over time to not further his hurts.

Once ready, he ran through the hallways and out onto the small courtyard towards the podium where the memorial service was being held. The affair was not meant to be a public one but there were still many of Boromir’s friends and men in arms invited so that there were quite some people crowded into the small space. Most of them stared at him in surprise and some in anger or disgust as he rushed in, clearly late and he flushed unhappily, cursing himself for having risen so late. All of them wore their uniforms or ceremonial attire and he felt extremely shabby in his old tunic and trousers and almost unconsciously tucked the slightly frayed sleeve end into his fist.

He had reached in time to hear Denethor start to speak. The older man glared at him in anger as he arrived and Faramir found himself shrinking back a little and breathing rapidly. He forced himself to calm down telling himself that there could be no repeat now of the previous night’s beating, and he shouldn’t be scared of that. Surely it was just the one time. His father had been angered and unhappy, that was all.

Denethor spoke only briefly, expressing pride in his son, brave and much loved. His voice was dry but Faramir accustomed to it, could make out the deep unhappiness that laced each word. Denethor then spoke of having Boromir’s legacy in Andreth, and at that bestowed a smile of such warmth and tenderness towards the boy that Faramir found himself feeling almost jealous. It would have been difficult at that moment to see in this Denethor the same man who had beaten him so badly the last night. He stiffened as he remembered the wrathful expression on Denethor’s face as the crop had fallen on him, and clenched his fists tight to force himself to forget the image.

Elessar spoke after that, soft, beautiful words about a friend and a soldier, who had always stood up for those in need. Faramir found tears prickling his eyes, as the king spoke of how Boromir had taught the hobbits to fight and had helped them walk through the more difficult stretches of terrain. Boromir had taught him to fight too, and he could well picture his larger brother, showing the small hobbits how to grip the sword or how to move.

Andreth spoke next, of a loving, kind father who had taught him to ride, hunt, fight, even sing. Faramir felt a fresh wave of tears at his words, as he stared at the young man standing up and speaking in such a quietly moving voice.

A few others spoke after that – Boromir’s friends in arms, and with each one Faramir felt his heart grow heavier. He truly missed Boromir and the support he’d given him. Boromir had defended him countless times to their father, countering Denethor’s wrath with a calm, even-tempered voice, often refuting Denethor’s allegations of Faramir’s incompetence with clear facts. And although Boromir had not been able to prevent his being beaten in his younger days he had always been there to comfort him. There had even been a time when Boromir had clearly overridden their father’s instructions and ridden out to Ithilien to bring a fevered and unconscious Faramir back to Minas Tirith to recuperate from injuries after a skirmish with Orcs. Boromir had even stayed back after that for nearly a week, as Faramir’s health had worsened before improving due to the movement from Ithilien to Minas Tirith. Had Boromir been here, Faramir would not spend each day being openly put down by his father or hence scorned by the other councillors. Or even if he did, he would have had his brother to restore some of his confidence.

Nor would he be sitting here, in pain and miserable.

By the time the service ended, Faramir was feeling miserable. The lack of food all morning, combined with the heaviness of heart left him with a pounding headache.

It was only as they dispersed that Faramir realised they would be having some of the guests here over for an early luncheon. He lingered back a little wondering if he should lunch alone as he often did, but then his father might not like that, he thought and made for the great hall instead. His movements were slow and sluggish and so the table was filled and they were ready to start serving by the time he reached his place. There were some fifteen guests on the long table, most of them other lords or captains.

At their own side of the table, he realised in dismay, sat the king and the queen, and the queen’s elven brothers. He tugged self-consciously at the collar of the old tunic he wore. The queen glanced up at him, a little coldly he thought, as he slipped into his chair.

“You were late,” Denethor said coldly, without preamble.

“Forgive me, I-”

Denethor waved a hand dismissively and nodded to the servants to start serving the food.

Faramir flushed uncomfortably and sat quickly on his chair, wincing a little as the still raw wounds on his buttocks came in contact with the hard surface. He squirmed a little and immediately tried to stop himself as he noticed the queen give him a curious glance.

“If you can’t eat without fidgeting like a child, perhaps you should have your meals in the nursery.” Denethor said coldly.

Faramir felt his face go hot as he flushed even deeper. Somewhere down the table someone smirked. He felt his appetite begin to slip away as a sickness settled in his stomach. He found himself wondering what else Denethor might say; aware that his father would have few qualms about belittling him in public. What if he spoke of beating Faramir, and told the others of how he had thrashed his grown son as one would perhaps a slave. As though on cue, his back flared again, as if in reminder of the beating he’d received.

Dimly through a fog of pain, he realised the queen was speaking of a supper she planned to hold on the morrow to welcome the Khandrim envoy.

“It need not be on as large a scale as what we will need for the Haradric envoy,” she saw saying, “But it can be sizeable nevertheless, I feel. I’ve asked for the kitchens to prepare a small feast, and maybe we can have a little entertainment, some dancing perhaps.”

“All the councillors will be present of course and their ladies,” she said and as her gaze fell on Faramir, she continued in a slightly frigid tone, “And I think it is only correct we wear ceremonial attire, and not everyday clothes which are not meant for special occasions.”

Faramir looked away dully.

Denethor’s call after the meal was not unexpected. He walked into his father’s study with trepidation and stood unmoving some distance away from the table. His eyes moved towards the wall where Denethor’s riding whips hung.

“You were late for the service,” Denethor raged almost as soon as he entered the room, “And not just that, you chose to dress inappropriately! How could you walk in there in these awful clothes?”

“Father, I-,” he’d meant to apologise for being late but the mention of the clothes threw him back. They were his everyday clothes true and a little old, but …

“Quiet! You are well aware that one cannot attend such occasions dressed in rags like these. Do you care so little for the memory of your brother that you cannot be bothered to wear your ceremonial attire?”

“I have no ceremonial attire,” he managed to slip in, unable to keep a slight tremor out of his voice.

Denethor stepped forward suddenly, and he found himself stepping back, swiftly, far too swiftly for his body’s liking. Pain laced through his back, but he ignored it as his father’s angered eyes bore down on him.

“I have told you before that I will not stand for your speaking to me like this while you stay under my roof,” Denethor said through gritted teeth, “If you have no ceremonial attire, get some! And you were ridiculously late for the ceremony. The servants tell me you overslept! On such an important occasion! Must you have the whole world know how little you care for Boromir’s memory?”

“I don’t –,”

“Silence! Your behaviour is inexcusable!”

Faramir stared away, down at the floor, feeling even more miserable. He wanted desperately to sit down a while and rest his aching body, but Denethor was only getting angrier and he found his eyes edging nervously towards the whips that hung on the wall.

“And on top of all this, there are errors in your work,” Denethor said, his voice full of anger now. He walked over to his desk and picking up the sheaf of papers Faramir had left on his table, threw them at his younger son’s face. Faramir rocked back on his heels as the papers floated to the floor around him, causing more pain to lace through his body. He bit back the whimper that arose in his throat and stared at Denethor in surprise. He had checked his work before leaving it on the table. It was what had taken him so long yesterday.

“You have overestimated the figures greatly,” Denethor said, “I have had to have two scribes work on it all morning to undo what you have done because you were too lazy to rise by then! Do you know how much time has been wasted by your incompetence?”

He had overestimated the figures a little and left a note explaining why he did so. Until the work in Minas Tirith was completed there was no telling how much of the raw material supplies would be available to start a reconstruction in Ithilien. They might need to buy materials from their neighbours.

He tried nervously to explain, “I left a -,”

Denethor leaned forward and slammed his palms on the table, “That’s quite enough from you. I suggest you get back to work on the Haradrim treaties. I hope at least there you will make fewer errors. There is little thinking required!”

“I don’t know what to do with you!” Denethor fumed, a look of frustration on his face, “You are incapable of soldiering and now you prove yourself incapable as a councillor too! You truly are useless! You may leave now. I am sick of the sight of you.” He sat back down at his desk and began going through his papers.

Faramir bit his lip unhappily, unsure what to defend himself against. It seemed no matter what he did, his father was never going to be satisfied, nor would he give him a chance to defend himself

“What are you waiting for?” Denethor asked

“I-,” he started, wishing to put some sort of defence forward, only to be interrupted again.

“I asked you to leave, and I expect you to do as I ask you if you wish to live under my roof. I disciplined you yesterday hoping it would have some effect,” Denethor said coldly, “If it has not I will not hesitate to discipline you again. If you do not wish to be beaten again, leave me and get back to your work.”

Faramir walked out slowly, a leaden feeling settling in his stomach at Denethor’s words.

He returned to his chambers and sat down heavily on his bed. The papers and books on the Haradrim treaties lay on his table but he made no move towards them. He removed his boots and lay exhaustedly on his bed. He lay there a while trying not to think of anything. He tried to sleep but his mind was too full of thoughts. He tried not to think of his father any more, and tried to think of what he might need from the archives instead. The thought of working on the treaties though began to give him a headache as he fretted over his father’s remarks on his work. He should get back to work, he thought worriedly, the day was nearly at an end and he’d done nothing.

He sighed heavily and rose, a little unsteadily, wincing as the movement pulled at his cuts. He picked up the papers on his desk and sat gingerly on the chair, after pacing a pillow on it. He shuffled through the papers, staring blankly at the words for a while. Shifting a little to alleviate his discomfort he got down to his work. He found himself working slowly, sometimes having to read over a passage twice to understand it. His back and stomach continued to pain him a little so that he had to keep shifting his position.

The dinner gong brought him out of his thoughts with a start and he sat up surprised at how much time had passed. He’d done very little in all this while, he realised desperately. He bit his lip and stared out of his window. He didn’t think he could face Denethor again today. His father would realise he hadn’t accomplished much all day. He would berate him again he was sure of that. His hand trembled slightly at the thought, and he placed his quill down. He wouldn’t dine with his father tonight, he decided.

Instead, he decided to take a stroll in the gardens before getting back to work. Just the thought of supper with his father was making him tense.

He walked around the gardens a bit and then looked for a place where he could sit and rest his back awhile. The cool, mildly scented air of the gardens did help him feel better, but he knew he needed to get back to work shortly. There was the dinner for the Khandrim envoy too, on the morrow… he remembered about the clothes and stopped worriedly.

He shook his head mirthlessly. Of all the things he needed to worry over now, he had clothes to add to the list. As a ranger, that had been his least concern. He’d invariably been in uniform, and even for any occasion he had had his dress uniform. Of course, he couldn’t wear that now that he was no longer a captain. He sat back wondering what to do.

Denethor wouldn’t stand for him not being attired properly now. He wondered if he could avoid the dinner but decided not to risk his father’s anger again. He bit his lip and looked for a place where he could sit and rest his back awhile.

Ceremonial clothes were expensive, and especially now after the war for the trade of richer fabrics and threads from the Khand and Rhun was yet to return to normalcy. He didn’t think he could afford them right now. With all the family assets in Andreth’s name, he had little by way of finances and the thought of delving into those limited funds to buy clothes, made him feel all the more fretful. He needed that money so he could move to Ithilien, away from his father’s house.

His financial constraints were another worry he’d prefer to avoid thinking of and yet another fact that Denethor kept taunting him with. There was little he could do. As the Steward’s son he had not even drawn the pay that the other officers or soldiers would have, nor did he get the pension the other wounded had received. The land his mother had left him in Dol Amroth was all he had which yielded him a small income, that he had estimated would be just about enough for him to rebuild the house in Ithilien and live there reasonably.

Denethor had repeatedly made it abundantly clear that all assets were Andreth’s, and that he would provide nothing for Faramir save basic necessities. It had become clearest when Faramir had ordered for a new sword a few weeks after he’d restarted his arms practise. He had still been weak then from his wound for the Haradrim dart, although not poisoned, had contained potions that had induced fevers and weakness for weeks, and the recovery had taken a great deal out of him. When he had resumed his practice with his usual sword, the wound as well as his ill-health had made it difficult for him to handle the sword. Even in his healthier days, it had felt a little heavy but he’d tolerated it, since he used the bow more.

After a few weeks of his struggling with the heavy sword, the arms master had suggested he get a lighter weapon, at least until he recovered. He’d agreed with the assessment and had ordered a newer, lighter sword from the armourers. Faramir had been puzzled at the hard note in his father’s voice when he’d asked him to meet him in his study that evening. Once there, Denethor had handed him the note from the armourers.

“What is this?” he asked coldly.

Faramir glanced at the note and on reading it, had explained, “I wished to order a new sword,” he said simply, “They have some new lighter ones, with the lighter handles like the elves use and Master –,”

“Is your old sword damaged?” Denethor interrupted.

“No, it is quite well,” Faramir said, “But -,”

“Then why do you wish to purchase a new one?” Denethor interrupted again, his voice hard as stone now, “You are as good as no longer a soldier and you wish instead for pretty weapons?”

Faramir stared back at him in puzzlement, suddenly wary of his father’s tone and words.

“Father, I-,” he started.

“Quiet! You may purchase all you like as long as you do so from your finances. What made you ask the armourers to send this note to me?”

Faramir stared at him in surprise, unsure why the talk of finances had come up now.

“Don’t look so surprised!” Denethor fumed, “I have already declared Andreth my heir and by all rights, this entire inheritance is his. I will not have you throw Andreth’s inheritance away on such frivolities as a new weapon for you! That you live here under this roof and are fed and clothed should be enough for you!”

The words still hurt even after all these weeks, and ever since then Faramir had decided to leave for Ithilien as soon as could. Unfortunately though, for now he was still in Minas Tirith.

Aragorn was taking his customary evening stroll through the gardens when he came across Faramir sitting quietly by a dried fountain. The younger man was sitting on a small bench and leaning his head against the trunk of a large tree.

He stared curiously at the younger man. Boromir had spoken of Faramir nearly as much as of Andreth, with as much love and pride. He’d told them of a friendly, kind, sensible young man who was scholar as well as warrior. Aragorn wasn’t entirely sure he could see that man in Faramir though.

When Aragorn had first seen him, in the houses of healing struck by a Haradrim dart and ailing under the influence of the Black Breath, he had wondered at how the brothers looked similar yet dissimilar. Then, the fine features of the younger son were marked with much despair and unhappiness. Watching Faramir now, he realised they still were and found himself wondering why. True he had faced loss but hadn’t they all? And yet while others were working hard to regain some measure of happiness in their lives, Faramir only ever seemed to even more morose. Even one as young as Andreth was learning to live his life without his father.

Faramir looked up then and noticed him. He sat up, biting his lip as he did so.

“Sire,” he said, standing up slowly.

“Faramir,” Aragorn responded, nodding at him.

They stood there a few seconds, and then Faramir spoke, fumbling awkwardly through the words.

“I – I was just out for some air – some fresh air… it gets stuffy inside,” he said aware that he was beginning to ramble.

“It’s a fine evening,” Aragorn said smiling, “I was going to walk along this path. Would you like to join me?”

“Of – of course,” Faramir said, hesitating only the slightest bit. He didn’t feel much up to taking another stroll. His back and legs had been screaming for rest after the round he’d taken of the garden earlier, and foregoing dinner left him with a mild headache. But he couldn’t refuse his king could he. He already felt a fool for rambling on unnecessarily. He had never been so awkward in his speech, words had in fact been his one area of comfort, enough for even Denethor who had at times let him accompany their envoys in diplomatic meetings. Of late though, he though morosely as he fell into step with the king, he seemed to be becoming incompetent at everything just as his father had said.

Aragorn found himself wondering about the Steward’s sons, as he watched Faramir walk dully and slowly by his side.

Boromir had been an energetic, intelligent man, charming, passionate, and at times recklessly so. When he spoke his voice carried his passion for his beliefs. Aragorn could still remember the intense, confident voice that would carry across the halls of Imladris when they first met. He remembered too the strong, well-built, young man who helped the hobbits climb and the feel of those strong, firm muscles under his arm as they had thrust against each other. He’d grown to love Boromir.

Faramir on the other hand was slender, almost to the point of thinness. He looked weary now as he often did, his young face creased in worry, dark circles ringing his dull eyes, and strands of silver already beginning to show up in his raven hair. He was nothing like Boromir, Aragorn decided. When he spoke, his voice was always soft and his tone at most times seemed diffident and at other times almost too anxious to please.

Where Boromir would have inspired another, Faramir barely even attracted anyone’s attention. Aragorn shook his head at the stark differences.

They had walked along quietly all this while, so Aragorn racked his brain for something he could discuss with the younger man. He knew nothing of his interests he realised. He did know he was something of a scholar and liked to read but he knew nothing of what he liked to read.

“How does your shoulder fare now?” he asked finally, after realising there was nothing else he knew about the other man.

“Quite well, Sire. Thank you for asking.” Faramir replied in a rather woodenly formal tone, Aragorn thought. He had been rather distraught at having to resign his captaincy, he recollected now. And Denethor had been unrepentant about making him do so, even going so far as to make some extremely pointed remarks about the younger man’s abilities on the field. He suddenly remembered the stricken look on the young man’s face when he’d been informed of the decision.

“You are continuing your weapons training, I believe,” he said, trying to continue the conversation.

“I – I have been practising with the sword,” Faramir said, “The master says I am improving a little.” The master had said he was improving far too slowly. He would need to go tomorrow, and he wondered how he would fight when he hurt so much everywhere. The master would surely get back to Denethor about that he realised worriedly. He hoped his father wouldn’t choose to complain on that as well, and stared unhappily at the stones in their path as he continued walking.

“Oh, that’s good,’ Aragorn said, for want of anything else. He didn’t see that it made much difference, when Faramir’s commission had been withdrawn.

He glanced sideways at the morose profile of the younger man, at the hunched shoulders and the bowed head, and almost found himself wondering how this insipid young man could ever have captained the rangers with their need for quick thinking, swiftness and agility. Had he changed so much in the war that he could no longer see a captain of men, in him?

Perhaps he was being unfair; Faramir might have had a tiring day. And yet, the younger man, he decided was clearly unhappy enough for it to affect his entire disposition. Perhaps it was the memorial service.

Faramir was beginning to feel tense in the silence that ensued. He would normally have been happy to walk along quietly, just revelling in the king’s company, but today the silence felt unnerving. He could sense he should say something that his behaviour did not meet with the king’s approval. He wondered uncomfortably if he should talk of something and realised he had no idea what to speak of. Had he become so incapable of being around others, he wondered bitterly.

“Well,” the king said heavily as they ended their circuit of the gardens, “We’ll see you at the dinner then.”

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78 Comment(s)

More please! It’s a lovely beginning. I’m enjoying the originality of your idea, as well as the tantalizing glimpses into Faramir’s pain.

— Laurel    Monday 7 May 2007, 3:43    #

gasp That’s it?! Please, please please. I’m loving the dynamics you’ve set up thus far. Please continue posting.

— somerset    Monday 7 May 2007, 14:41    #

Minx, you are wonderful. I’ve been a fan of yours for a while, and you do not disappoint. I can’t wait for more!

— sweet baby turtle    Monday 7 May 2007, 17:14    #

i’m hooked! more please?

— traveller    Tuesday 8 May 2007, 23:56    #

Oh, I can’t wait for more. Poor Faramir. I hope Aragorn doesn’t forget him.

— crazy kitty    Wednesday 9 May 2007, 5:21    #

I love how Minx writes Faramir stories. :) Please update Grief and Hope as soon as possible.

— Vicki    Wednesday 16 May 2007, 1:46    #

I’m loving it :)

— Ness    Wednesday 23 May 2007, 17:12    #

Poor Faramir! And the “grief” part is still building up isn’t it? Looking forward for the updates on the “hope” part!
Great writing Minx!

dream.in.a.jar    Wednesday 6 June 2007, 15:38    #

Damn you for catching me in a WIP! Interesting mix so far, especially Andreth.

— Bell Witch    Thursday 7 June 2007, 2:07    #

awwe my poor sweet faramir!hugs

— daze    Wednesday 20 June 2007, 2:23    #

Wonderful! Looking forward to the next part, hopefully soon!
You are the best!
Thanks.

— zion    Monday 25 June 2007, 12:55    #

This story is heartbreaking, I ache for Faramir and it’s like I have this constant knot in my stomach… you write his despair wonderfully, I really feel for him.

I’m really looking forward to reading the rest, I have to say.

— Mouse    Thursday 2 August 2007, 22:01    #

Thanks Mouse. I’m glad you like the fic.:)

Minx    Sunday 5 August 2007, 14:44    #

This story is absolutely wonderful! I’ve read most of your stories, Minx, and I love them all, but this one..This one is really catching me. “Walk No More In The Shadows”, with Iris, is the other one I’m really addicted to, I’ve read both of them many times..I hope you update this one soon. Again, wonderful job!

— Christine    Friday 10 August 2007, 0:21    #

Thanks a ton for such lovely words Christine) I’ll be updating very soon!

Minx    Friday 10 August 2007, 18:59    #

I would like to congratulate you on a story well done. I love the way your wrote Faramir but Denethor is something else. Can;t wait for the next chapter.

— balrog    Sunday 12 August 2007, 9:35    #

I’m absolutely adoring this story, and I’d like to congratulate you too. I’ve read a few of your stories on another site, so imagine my pleasure to come across this little treasure trove! :)
I love how you write Faramir (in this story and the others too). It’s so beautiful. I do enjoy a troubled Faramir.. aren’t we sadists? Bah… I won’t care if you don’t :)

I hope to be able to read more of this soon!!

— Chel    Sunday 18 November 2007, 22:30    #

Are you going to write more? You really, really need too. It’s really good so far; and I love the way you write about Faramir.

— Faramir's Fan    Sunday 6 January 2008, 21:12    #

thank you Faramir’s Fan:) More is in the offing, and should be up soon!

Minx    Monday 25 February 2008, 16:02    #

oh, i can’t wait for the next chapter and for aragorn to find out about faramir’s back.

— Lisa Poole    Wednesday 5 March 2008, 19:41    #

love it; so glad to see you update, have been waiting for it for so long, and i have to say it is worth.

— traveller    Thursday 6 March 2008, 22:37    #

@Lisa: Thank you for reading:) I hop eto have the next chapter up sonner than I had this one up:o) Aragorn and Faramir are sure going to have interesting times ahead!

@traveller: Thank you! And thank you for keeping up with the delay:o I’m delighted you liked it!:)

minx    Sunday 9 March 2008, 10:13    #

I’m enjoying your story very much, and am very glad to have found it. I’ve been poking about your other stories as well and I have to say you’re my favorite Faramir author around. I hope you plan on adding more to this story soon!

— Silverkit    Tuesday 25 March 2008, 3:46    #

Thank you Silverkit for such kind words! I’m delighted you liked this and the other stories as well. Hope to update soon:)

minx    Wednesday 26 March 2008, 15:51    #

I love both characters in this, and am looking forward to some tenderness between them, as I think you write those scenes so well.

— pinbot    Wednesday 16 April 2008, 21:51    #

Thank you pinbot! I’m delighted you’re enjoying the fic, and I do hope to have some reasonably tender scenes coming up some time.

minx    Sunday 27 April 2008, 11:01    #

Can’t wait until you have more for me to read. This new chapter is very well written and now I’m tensed to see what shall happen next.

— Elindil    Sunday 11 May 2008, 19:55    #

I am SO glad that there is a new chapter of this wonderful story! Thanks, I look forward to next one.

— Melogale    Tuesday 3 June 2008, 16:28    #

This latest chapter is so moving, as it captures the sadness of just how little Faramir is willing to settle for, as he doesn’t feel worthy of being loved….

— ebbingnight    Tuesday 3 June 2008, 17:21    #

I am so loving this story. More please whenever you can.

— Kelly    Tuesday 3 June 2008, 21:17    #

What a treat to have another installment by my favorite author! Normally I stay away from WIPs but this one has been irresistible. Please Minx, drop everything else you’re doing and write more!!

— Laurel    Wednesday 4 June 2008, 4:37    #

have i tell you how much i love this story? and this chapter is SO sexy! love it, more pleeeeeeeease!!!

— traveller    Thursday 5 June 2008, 16:11    #

Elindil: thank you:) I’m delighted you liked this chapter. Hope to have more up soon.

Minx    Saturday 7 June 2008, 6:08    #

Melogale: Thank you for reading! I hope to have the next chapter up quicker than this one:)

Minx    Saturday 7 June 2008, 6:11    #

ebbingnight: I’m glad that works. Faramir is indeed willing to settle for very little right now… he doesn’t feel either loved or wanted by anyone:o

Minx    Saturday 7 June 2008, 6:18    #

Kelly: thank you! I do hope to update sooner:)

Minx    Saturday 7 June 2008, 6:18    #

Laurel: thank you for reading:) I understand your relutctance to read WIPs so I really appreciate that you read this. I would love to drop everything and write more of this:)

Minx    Saturday 7 June 2008, 6:18    #

traveller: Thank you for loving this story:) I’m glad this chapter worked. hope to have more soon!

Minx    Saturday 7 June 2008, 6:21    #

I just wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed this story thus far…I can’t wait to see what happens when they get to ithelien (is that how you spell it?) I kinda hope Arwen doesn’t become totally pissed off, but whatever you do I’m sure it will be great!

eringobraugh007    Tuesday 1 July 2008, 5:13    #

I really liked this story, just wanted to let you know! Please continue!! :)

— Haily    Friday 5 December 2008, 5:37    #

thanks Haily. I hope to have a new chapter up soon.

— minx    Thursday 18 December 2008, 21:04    #

I love this story so much! It feels a little like it’s my birthday with each new chapter ;)
Thank you for writing this – you’re the best!

iris    Tuesday 20 January 2009, 17:10    #

As much as I like this story (and have been following it since you first started it), all the emphasis on the “grief” part of “grief and hope” is a bit depressing. Is Faramir forever going to be stuck in a cycle of depression where he is constantly reminded of his “inferiority”? Will he ever show the confidance we know he’s capable of? Will Aragorn/Arwen/anyone else be anything more than indifferent to him? Will he ever get the guts to talk back to Denethor? It’s my personal hope that you will have a positive ending to this story (however long it is ;D), but if not it’s certainly a good worst case senario if events in LOTR didn’t happen as Tolkien originally wrote them. Eagerly awaiting the next chapter!

— Chantal    Tuesday 20 January 2009, 19:01    #

Aaaargh!!!! You’re killing me! Why does Aragorn have to be such a bastard? Why is Arwen such a bitch? And poor wubbly Faramir! Come to me honey! I’ll love you! Sigh. I know you’ll get to the ‘hope’ part soon (right???), just after you finish torturing us all. Glad Arwen is going away for awhile – that’s hopeful right? My big fear is that in naming it ‘Grief and Hope,’ you didn’t make any promises. ‘Hope’ after all doesn’t equal ‘satisfaction.’ Hope can be unfounded, unfulfilled, unmet, unrealized…Please let my fears be for naught. Please?

— Vanwa Hravani    Wednesday 21 January 2009, 17:58    #

Iris: I’m truly delighted you like this:) I hope to give you birthday time again soon:))

— Minx    Thursday 22 January 2009, 19:10    #

Chantal: I’m really delighted you like this story! About the grief aspect being more, and Faramir being less confident… well, part of the thing in this AU is that Fara does not get the same opportunities here that he did otherwise. Here, he’s sort of unimportant, because he has no role really. Denethor is lready steward and he’s not even next in line right now:o But yes, he will probably evoke less indifference later down the story and have a slightly better and more hope-filled time:)

— minx    Thursday 22 January 2009, 19:12    #

Vanwa Hravani: You’ll have to queue up to hug Fara:) I think the hope will get realised a bit, just maybe not right now. Arwen may be away but these two are still very new to each other:o)
Thank you for reading:)

— Minx    Thursday 22 January 2009, 19:16    #

I really enjoy this story, and in the spirit of 5 years of this wonderful site, I thought I’d let you know. There are just oodles of feelings work into this and nothing seems as straightforward as it could be. I do hope you’ll update soon and let us know a bit more about where this story is going!

— Jo    Friday 6 March 2009, 14:05    #

Thank you Jo! Yes, nothing is as it seems here:) I’m very glad that the feelings come out, I felt it would be needed in an AU like this. I do hope to update soon, RL notwithstanding. thank you again!:)

— Minx    Sunday 8 March 2009, 10:54    #

Oh Minx, I don’t know what to say. first I would like you to know how truly in love I am with your stories. This one and Walk no more… stories are my favorite ones. I’m sure you alredy know this and I don’t think that my oppinion will matter, but you are a true writer. You have such a way with building up the tensions and nothing feels puched, everything happens for a reason, not just because. I would also like to thank you for starting this whole website, if you could call it that. hte stories that are here, and mainly yours, have helped me to see that there is still hope and also I now feel that I am aloud to cry. For the first time in almost sixteen years I am crying and it feels so strange and yet so reveling. You have made my sleepless nights easier, and the times I wake up from my nightmares I know that this stories are here to comfort me and take my minds elsewhere. I’m sure you get this types of comment all the time but I just wanted to say Thank you.

— Ingrid    Wednesday 27 May 2009, 13:12    #

I absolutely adore this fic, I hope it gets updated soon!

— Sue    Friday 26 June 2009, 13:56    #

Ingrid, Sue: thank you! I’m sorry for the delay in responding. But, yes,
I am trying to get the next chapter up as soon as I can

— Minx    Saturday 17 October 2009, 11:43    #

I, too, adore this fic and hope that it has not been forgotten.

— pinbot    Saturday 1 May 2010, 19:20    #

I, too, adore this fic and hope that it has not been forgotten.

I second that! ;)

iris    Sunday 2 May 2010, 13:45    #

Me three :)

— Ingrid    Sunday 2 May 2010, 21:24    #

Pinbot, Iris, Ingrid: Not forgotten… but I did get a little stuck last year in RL, sooo… but I am in the middle of the next chapter, so here’s hoping:)

— Minx    Monday 3 May 2010, 18:37    #

Hurray! What an amazing surprise. Thanks for the satisfying, if still very painful on Faramir’s part, update.

— pinbot    Wednesday 16 June 2010, 20:51    #

I’m echoing Pinbot’s hurray … I keep re-reading this story so I’m very excited to see an update.

— Mira Took    Thursday 17 June 2010, 7:02    #

Breaking our hearts all over again, are we? Lovely to see this update at last!

— ebbingnight    Thursday 17 June 2010, 15:53    #

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

— fëawen    Thursday 17 June 2010, 19:49    #

Pibbot, Mira, Ebbingnight, Feawen: Thank you all so much for continuing to read despite my awful slowness! Poor fara is definitely going through the wringer here… hands him around for hugs and kisses

— Minx    Monday 21 June 2010, 19:07    #

More please! This is the best fanfic ever! Please don’t end it :)
I like Denethor-Faramir scenes
maybe u should write more about those two
it’s nice the way u write about how denethor torture his younger son

— A    Thursday 15 July 2010, 7:58    #

A: thank you! I’m delighted you’re liking it. there will be more Denethor-Faramir scenes, never fear:) Denethor has quite a bit he wants to say to his son!

— Minx    Monday 19 July 2010, 17:33    #

This story is wonderful! The way all of the characters interact with each other is extremely believable and the slow progression of their relationships is very realistic. I’m a little bit in love with your writing style.

I do hope you haven’t forgotten about this because I’d love to find out what happens next. :)

— Isabel    Monday 28 November 2011, 23:34    #

Isabel: I’m so sorry, I missed out o your feedback earlier. thank yoiu for your lovely words… I’m really delighted you like the way it flows. I haven’t forgotten about it, I’m just looking for a long run of quiet time :o sigh hopefully will get some soon!

Minx    Thursday 26 January 2012, 11:10    #

YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH I NEED YOU TO CONTINUE THIS. I need Aragorn to understand how he’s affecting poor Faramir, and I need Faramir to gain some closure on this whole ordeal and stand up for himself in Denethor’s presence. Please tell me that you aren’t giving up on this amazing and complex story. It’s paining me to see Faramir go through all of this.

— Fan    Saturday 26 January 2013, 2:28    #

Fan – Thank you so much for reading! I’m sooo sorry it’s been on hold for so long. I sort of reached a block on it, got stuck with other stuff in RL and then got blocked further more. It is as you say, a little complex so returning to it is taking me very long :( But I’m trying to finish it, I haven’t given up on it…. I’m hoping soon I’ll be able to unblock myself and progress. Thank you for the support…

Minx    Tuesday 29 January 2013, 14:10    #

Ooh!! “Completely smutty” is what you promised, and completely smutty is what you delivered! But it’s not just straight-up, mechanical porn smut — or at least not for F’s part. I love the bitter sweet longing; F’s so happy to get just this, but at the same time so desperate for more.
Great stuff — as always. Thank you so much for sharing!

iris    Monday 22 April 2013, 20:34    #

Tsk tsk tsk, bad Aragorn playing pranks when he´s awaited so desperately! (slap) ;) And apart from that: Beautiful work! And now I have to go thinking about the more juicy complicate parts…

— raven22372    Tuesday 23 April 2013, 9:22    #

Thanks :) I love this story. I am waitinng the next.

— katiedaly    Tuesday 23 April 2013, 15:34    #

Сan’t wait for more. For some mysterious reasons absolutely in love with your deprived and unfulfilled Faramir, though the state you are putting him in makes my heart aches. Pain is so close to pleasure:)

— LID    Thursday 25 April 2013, 10:42    #

Iris – thank you!:) I’m so glad all of that worked…:) hugs

Raven – yes, he’s baaad :) I’m very glad you liked it, and happy thinking juicy thoughts:)

Katiedaly – thank you ever so much for continuing to read despite my tardiness. i’m delighted you liked it!

LID – Thank you:) I’m glad all of that worked! It’s always nice to come across a fellow lover of deprived and unfulfilled Faramir :)

Minx    Thursday 25 April 2013, 17:22    #

Dear Minx, I first came across this site and this story several years ago, yet I never left a comment despite the way this particular work moved me and drew me in from the very first sentence. So now that I’ve happened to find this site again, I thought it was high time I actually told you how much I admire your writing and how beautifully I think you capture everything you set out to do :)

It’s been truly heartachingly wonderful to reread this and even more so to discover that since then you’ve actually written some more chapters and seem to never have entirely forgotten about this, when no doubt it must be difficult to get back into the story and its emotional frame of mind time and again. Faramir’s sorrow and tentative hope, too often quashed as not to get lost in the inevitable despair of unfulfilled longing, his grief over both his brother’s death and the seemingly ever-growing impossibility of being a family with his father and nephew, his wish to find a place – any place, really – to belong and feel secure of, the bittersweet tenderness of his observations and the perpetual struggle to not totally accept perceived shortcomings as his own, his curiosity and need to learn of other cultures and the wish to not give up – all these aspects of Faramir’s personality are quite palpable and render your portrayal of him as believable and touching and human as can possibly be done. I really enjoy that there is far more to Faramir than morose and unhappy feelings, that underneath it all he is still the scholar, the gentle soul and faithful integrity.

But Aragorn, too, is remarkably complex. It’s amazing, I think, that with these few glimpses you’ve given us we still know him to be a stern but kind ruler, a loving husband and father, a grieving friend and, of course, the ranger of old. He, too, seems so very believably human in that he succumbs to the ever-present comparison of Faramir to his dead and beloved brother, even though he still tries to see beyond that and reconcile what he sees with what Boromir told him about his brother. His bemusement at Faramir’s wish to touch and be intimate in more ways than he is used to with men also gives his character another interesting aspect. Heartbreaking as it is to feel Faramir’s resigned acceptance and his decision to be content with whatever affection Aragorn may offer him, Aragorn’s obvious different views and feelings make sense in themselves and show him to be a person still open to grow and learn.

I also appreciate how you write Denethor. It’s nice to see him as more than the stereotypical abuser. Rather, it seems indeed as if his violent and abusive behaviour towards his son stems from his own unabated grief, his inability to come to terms with everything that happened and maybe even as part of the madness the palantír stirred in him.

The last point, however, I’d like to mention, and the one which makes this story, in my opinion, even better than your character portrayals already do, is the many questions these chapters keep bringing up. What, I wonder, will be Lady Idril’s part in this? Is Denethor finally looking for a new love? Is she just a friend or will she become one more reason for Faramir to feel left out of the family? May Denethor in time even wish to remarry and want his son out of his home? Or could she be someone to bring Denethor to at least view his son in a more positive light, even if he may never come to realize his worth?

What about Arwen? What do her glances and inscrutable looks mean? Is she aware of Aragorn’s intimacy with other men? Has he told her about Boromir? Does she read both Faramir and her husband’s hearts more shrewdly than they do themselves? Does she perceive a threat? Is there perhaps more to her comments and does she, as well, wonder about the Steward’s family?

When will Andreth start to ask questions? How much does he already know? Will Faramir’s financial worries become more urgent? When will the King finally catch on to just how much wrong there is about Faramir and his father’s relationship? And what of the Northern rangers? Is there too little communication between them and their Southern kin for word to reach Aragorn just how much of a capable captain Faramir used to be? Does he even know how Faramir helping Frodo and Sam on their way in Ithilien changed the outcome of the war? So many questions … :)

So, thank you so much for writing and sharing this! This truly is one of the most compelling stories I’ve ever read and I’m really glad I remembered this site, after all.

Have a happy New Year and may the muse visit you again some time in the future, even if it may be another year from now :)

— Loreley    Monday 13 January 2014, 23:00    #

@Loreley: Thank you for taking the time to leave this review and such a detailed one at that. It really made my day to read this, and also made me wish I could be a lot more regular in updating this fic. I’m sorry to take so long to respond.

Thank you for such lovely words. I’m only too glad there were some new chapters for you to read. I have been undeniably slow on this one. I’m heartened that Faramir comes across as you have written, with his wish to find a place he belongs to and his thirst for learning. He is certainly still a scholar and in this particular story I think gentle is one word that describes him very well. It is all the more a contrast to Denethor’s anger at him.

I am extremely glad too that Aragorn comes across as complex and human. He is used to a different kind of male friendship especially when it is more sexual than platonic – one where the friend sees himself as an equal and has the same expectations out of their intimacy that Aragorn has. Faramir unfortunately enough does not quite see him as an equal – he is too overwhelmed by Aragorn’s rank and achievements and also cowed down by his perceived shortcomings. He is also cowed down by a given cultural context where he may not allow a non-platonic relationship to progress beyond a point simply because it is not the done thing. And Aragorn doesn’t really understand right now how much he means to Faramir. In my mind while Faramir has fallen headlong in love with Aragorn, Aragorn himself has not really reached a stage where he thinks of himself in love with anyone other than Arwen whom he has loved for years. Even with Boromir, while he recollects him vividly, it is more from a sense of brotherhood and the joint tribulations of their journey together. With Faramir he has no such linkages and no such experiences, but as you rightly point out he may still learn what it could be like to slowly fall in love with another person.

Denethor is indeed still coming to terms with everything. He would rather concentrate on Andreth and to him Faramir is possibly just a distraction and an unpleasant reminder of what he lost.

As to your questions, well, Lady Idril will have a brief role and may indeed steer Denethor to some direction. Arwen will have something to say of Aragorn’s intimacies in the next few chapters. Andreth is aware that there is strife, but he is young and like most young men he’s not really cognizant of what happens in the lives of others. He grieves for Boromir and misses him and he is fond of Denethor so may care of what he goes through. But with Faramir his relationship is undeveloped. I like to think Denethor involuntarily made it so, by keeping Andreth close and encouraging him to be more like Boromir and less like Faramir. Aragorn knows at the back of his mind that Faramir has once been a capable captain. But he is for now more concerned about the now. And Faramir’s injuries have reduced his physical capabilities. What Aragorn and others need to realise is that hi mental acuity for now remains strong.

I wish you a very happy new year too and thank you again greatly for your lovely review. It encourages me to be a little more diligent in getting back to this. I have been very distracted by RL but I do want to work towards finishing this. :)

Minx    Monday 20 January 2014, 9:41    #

update soon, please!!!!!!

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— Nimrodel    Tuesday 15 April 2014, 0:20    #

More than a year later, and hello again!

Recently I’ve had some time to come back here and re-read not only this favourite but also some of your other stories. It was great to find that this story is still as emotionally captivating to me as it was the first and all the other times after I read it, when sometimes I find that I’ve changed so much that I wonder what exactly it was about a story that got me hooked. Your writing, and “Grief and Hope” in particular, however, still have the same pull they used to, perhaps even more so than before – after all, so much time has been spent wondering and asking questions and hoping Faramir might yet get the happy ending he deserves that it feels I’m more invested than I would be if I’d already had all the answers. Finding a positive side to a long time in-between updates :) Still true, though.

In comparison to your other longer works, though, I feel that this story is more balanced somehow. At least, I get the impression that all the characters are more complex here than in your other stories, making their development and substance both more believable and real to me as a reader. I’ve enjoyed all the different takes on Faramir you’ve done, yet this Faramir is “more” to me in a way than the Faramirs in your other writings. There is a very delicate subtlety in your portrayal of him that makes him more tangible and accessible. Please don’t get me wrong, I, like most of the readers on this site, love hurt/comfort stories and so don’t mind a more subdued and cowered Faramir, but I still really like the quiet strength Faramir has here, even more so than in “The King and the Ranger”. Plus, I’m a huge fan of Denethor (flaws and all, to me one of the most fascinating characters in LotR), and as I’ve said before, I like what you’ve made of him here.

So while, of course, I would love to see this story continued sometime in the future (and who doesn’t know RL taking more time than we’d like?), what you’ve written so far stands well enough on its own, and I’d like to say thanks again for sharing this much with us readers already. Some unfinished works are still so much more satsifying and moving to read than many finished stories, and as long as I can come back here and enjoy all the splendid work, I’ll be content and happy with what you’ve accomplished so far. Great work!

— Loreley    Sunday 19 April 2015, 17:52    #

At least once a year I come back to this truly wonderful, beautifully written story. Sometimes I wonder whether or not I misremember its compelling tone, fascinating characterizations or moving story line – silly me! From the very first sentence I’ve been drawn in without fail every single time. I don’t know if you still ever visit this site or read these comments, but I sincerely hope you do. Thank you so much for writing and sharing this – and for leaving it online! I hope to re-read this many times still to come :)

— Loreley    Saturday 19 October 2019, 17:46    #

In recent years I haven’t read much LotR fanfiction, but this work is one I still keep coming back to time and again … Grief and hope, indeed! And not just for Faramir, I think. Despite and because of his role, I would still love to see Denethor truly happy again as well. Although I fear that true happiness may forever elude him, after having lost his wife and his eldest son as well as, yes: his hope!, no matter that here he has a grandson to dote on, well, as far as one such as Denethor would ever dote on anyone … Arwen remains as mysterious and unreadable to me as ever in this story. Such an interesting character! Does she sense her husband’s budding curiosity and fear what may come of it? Or does it run even deeper, does she glimpse more of both Faramir’s and her husband’s thoughts and hearts than either of them do themselves? Also, I wonder, does or will Faramir ever feel guilty for – potentially – coming between his king and queen … and possibly depriving Eldarion of his parents’ happiness? As many times as I’ve read these chapters now, it has actually just this time occurred to me that, thus far, we haven’t really seen Aragorn the father here. Will Faramir soon meet his successor as Captain of the Ithilien rangers? Will his men ever play their own part in ackowledging their captain’s greatness and strong will when standing against the darkness? What will they say to their northern kin in defense of their steadfast and gentle leader? Such a long time and still so many questions keep coming :) Thank you again so much! For this lovely and bittersweet work, for the time you spent on this and, as always, for sharing it with us …

— Loreley    Monday 17 May 2021, 19:26    #

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